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there was an abc poll that less than three thought the afghan had been worth despite osama bin lauden. where do we draw the line? >> i think not just the ambiguous outcomes in the wars in afghanistan but also the libyan situation in which they thought we were doing good in the world, and we helped overthrow gaddafi, and then we had ambassador chris stevens, who was really a hero in the benghazi area killed in that very city when he was ambassador and then they have seen egypt and yemen erupt and i think they writely believed that america's apparent america'sability to flinfluencee evenltsdz would be limited and it's costly to try. >> almost a year anniversary of the benghazitac. it was airstrikes on libya. that was what many are proposing now for syria, and now, it seems like the situation in libya is much worse than it was under gaddafi in certain ways. >> i think any time you get involved in a war, you cannot entirely predict the outcome. so i think there is certainly a war weariness in the u.s. but a war wariness as well. people really are worried about these sorts of things. but i
there was an abc poll that less than three thought the afghan had been worth despite osama bin lauden. where do we draw the line? >> i think not just the ambiguous outcomes in the wars in afghanistan but also the libyan situation in which they thought we were doing good in the world, and we helped overthrow gaddafi, and then we had ambassador chris stevens, who was really a hero in the benghazi area killed in that very city when he was ambassador and then they have seen egypt and yemen...
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iconic sense that osama bin laden was such a leader. al zawahiri is a much less figure -- a much more diminished figure than osama bin laden. it is important obviously the u.s. government made these unprecedented steps to shut down these embassies because the new head of al qaeda and the arabian peninsula is actually a protege of zawahiri. i think we have to keep our eye on the ball here and it's al qaeda in the arabian peninsula and proliferation of the al qaeda cells. in iraq, 3,000 people killed since april. a lot of that related to al qaeda, syria and north africa. >> that's just where i was going to go. no, no, it's very important. general clark, i want to go there. we can talk about a saudi arabia peninsula and al qaeda there but you've got this diffusion, people say being this is the new al qaeda and it's diffusion, it's not centralized anymore. here's the united states giving weapons to libyan rebels, to syrian rebels, as peter said also to iraqis. those weapons are all over the place and there's no telling who has them and ther
iconic sense that osama bin laden was such a leader. al zawahiri is a much less figure -- a much more diminished figure than osama bin laden. it is important obviously the u.s. government made these unprecedented steps to shut down these embassies because the new head of al qaeda and the arabian peninsula is actually a protege of zawahiri. i think we have to keep our eye on the ball here and it's al qaeda in the arabian peninsula and proliferation of the al qaeda cells. in iraq, 3,000 people...
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he said al qaeda, we decimated the top leadership and we killed osama bin laden and the main number two or number three leaders. i don't think anything he said was inaccurate. the reality is al qaeda has been reconstituted in different satellite organizations across the region. so we have al qaeda in libya, for example. al qaeda in the sudan, for example. so it's not just the old al qaeda in afghanistan or iraq. al qaeda is taking different forms and shapes and that's the reality that the state department -- >> repeat my question. he said we decimated al qaeda, okay? he said they were not the threat that they once were, however you wish to paraphrase it. our clips were pretty specific. have they now, thankfully, changed their position about the al qaeda threat? is that what you hear about this announcement? >> no. this is an administration that's been ever vigilant in fighting the threat since they came in office. they were focused about getting osama bin laden from the beginning and they've been executing drone strikes at a rate faster than the bush administration and by the way, that'
he said al qaeda, we decimated the top leadership and we killed osama bin laden and the main number two or number three leaders. i don't think anything he said was inaccurate. the reality is al qaeda has been reconstituted in different satellite organizations across the region. so we have al qaeda in libya, for example. al qaeda in the sudan, for example. so it's not just the old al qaeda in afghanistan or iraq. al qaeda is taking different forms and shapes and that's the reality that the state...
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. >> reporter: a few years back when the hunt for osama bin laden was still raging, some intelligence forces believed al qaeda was even developing its own intranet that was electronically hidden behind jihadi websites and accessible to only a few people. whether they succeeded or such a system still exists like much of the communication structure remains shrouded in mystery. tom foreman, washington. >> of course the great irony using so much american innovation to try to destroy america. "outfront" next why dr. sanjay gupta change ed his mind on weed. an about-face and he h eel explain why. >>> then are you driving a compact car that failed a crash test? we have the alarming results. >>> and a double play. he made the catch but what he did next was the true score. [ male announcer ] these days, a small business can save by sharing. like carpools... polly wants to know if we can pick her up. yeah, we can make room. yeah. [ male announcer ] ...office space. yes, we're loving this communal seating. it's great. [ male announcer ] the best thing to share? a data plan. at&t mobile share for
. >> reporter: a few years back when the hunt for osama bin laden was still raging, some intelligence forces believed al qaeda was even developing its own intranet that was electronically hidden behind jihadi websites and accessible to only a few people. whether they succeeded or such a system still exists like much of the communication structure remains shrouded in mystery. tom foreman, washington. >> of course the great irony using so much american innovation to try to destroy...
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. >> reporter: a few years back when the hunt for osama bin laden was still raging, some intelligence forces believed al qaeda was even developing its own intranet that was electronically hidden behind jihadi websites and accessible to only a few people. whether they succeeded or such a system still exists like much of the communication structure remains shrouded in mystery. tom foreman, washington. >> of course the great irony using so much american innovation to try to destroy america. >>> our tourt fourth story outfront, dr. sanjay gupta changes his mind on weed. 20 states allow medical marijuana. and the medical community seems to be changing its mind on pot. but you know, not everybody is. a lot are adamantly against it. but there is a dramatic turn around for dr. gupta who just four years ago wrote an article for "time" magazine titled why i would vote no for pot. the ground breaking new documentary airing this sunday on cnn. and in it, he explained why he changed his mind. sanjay, the fda says marijuana is harmful, we know that. michael bloomberg is quoted saying medical mariju
. >> reporter: a few years back when the hunt for osama bin laden was still raging, some intelligence forces believed al qaeda was even developing its own intranet that was electronically hidden behind jihadi websites and accessible to only a few people. whether they succeeded or such a system still exists like much of the communication structure remains shrouded in mystery. tom foreman, washington. >> of course the great irony using so much american innovation to try to destroy...
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he produced the first tv interview of osama bin laden back in 1997. gregory johnsen is the author of the last refuge, yemen, al qaeda and america's war in arabia. welcome. peter, what triggered all of this as far as we understand it is the head of al qaeda sent a message to al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, in yemen, asking them, you know, do some terrorism, please. >> yeah, do something. >> now, is that a sign of weakness or strength? >> it's a sign of just sending a message. i mean it's do something is pretty -- it's not like, you know, the end of the world is coming. and so far whatever that something is hasn't transpired. and i think that al qaeda central is aware of its own problems and even al qaeda in the arabian peninsula is not doing particularly well, despite all of the flurry of things we've seen over the past week. about 30 of their leaders and south operatives have been killed in cia drone strikes, so their bench is thinning. >> why has yemen become the next place, after afghanistan, pakistan? >> right. well, i think in yemen you have a
he produced the first tv interview of osama bin laden back in 1997. gregory johnsen is the author of the last refuge, yemen, al qaeda and america's war in arabia. welcome. peter, what triggered all of this as far as we understand it is the head of al qaeda sent a message to al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, in yemen, asking them, you know, do some terrorism, please. >> yeah, do something. >> now, is that a sign of weakness or strength? >> it's a sign of just sending a...
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. >>> president obama credited the marines for taking down osama bin laden and he had a warning about the dangers out there. >> al qaeda affiliates and like-minded extremists still threaten our homeland, still threaten our diplomatic facilities, still threaten our businesses abroad. we have to take these threats seriously. >> the signs of the threat triggered a global terror alert an the basis for it. what got everyone so worked up? eli lake and josh row gan believe they know. their daily beast article is headed al qaeda conference call intercepted by u.s. officials sparked alerts. some kind of conference call that one intelligence official described it this way, like the meeting of he legion of doom. we are joined by fran townsend. she serves on the dhs and security advisory boards. i know you can only say so much because you want to protect sources and are concerned about balancing your reporting with national security. cnn has spoken to a number of sources tell, as well as terrorism experts who say that 20-plus leaders of al qaeda communicating with each other at the same time on a
. >>> president obama credited the marines for taking down osama bin laden and he had a warning about the dangers out there. >> al qaeda affiliates and like-minded extremists still threaten our homeland, still threaten our diplomatic facilities, still threaten our businesses abroad. we have to take these threats seriously. >> the signs of the threat triggered a global terror alert an the basis for it. what got everyone so worked up? eli lake and josh row gan believe they...
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because of you, osama bin laden is no more. because of you, al qaeda's top ranks have been handled. the core of al qaeda in afghanistan and pakistan is on the way to defeat. that happened because of you. because of you, more afghans are re-claiming their communities, their markets, their schools, their towns. they have a chance to forge their own future. because of you, more afghans are trained in stepping up and defending their own country. because of you and to preserve the gains you fought and bled for, we are going to make sure that afghanistan is never again a source of attacks against our country. that happened because of you. so the war in afghanistan will end, for you that means fewer deployments, more training time, preparing for the future, getting back to what marines do better than anybody else on earth, amphibious operations. it means more time here on the home front with your families, your wives, your husbands, your kids. but, of course, the end of the war in afghanistan doesn't mean the end of threats to our nation. as i've said before, even as we decimated the al qa
because of you, osama bin laden is no more. because of you, al qaeda's top ranks have been handled. the core of al qaeda in afghanistan and pakistan is on the way to defeat. that happened because of you. because of you, more afghans are re-claiming their communities, their markets, their schools, their towns. they have a chance to forge their own future. because of you, more afghans are trained in stepping up and defending their own country. because of you and to preserve the gains you fought...
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or osama bin laden or sean hannity. these are horrible names! >> sean hannity, that is not fair. >> all kidding aside, one quick thing, i know stephanie wants to jump in. in tennessee, turned statute of child abuse, it includes not just physical abuse, but imminent mental abuse. if you're going to name your child messiah or a worse name, a more challenging name, the child live withes it, not the parent. they think it's cute and fun. your kid has to go every day with that and get beaten up or ostracized from society. that's wrong. >> stephanie, dean makes a point. but dean, messiah is number four among fastest growing baby names in this country. so there are lots of messiahs running around. so, you know, when a judge -- forget the judge's rationale. even dean's rationale, does it add up that the name would be some insipient child abuse? >> well, a worm hole has opened in the universe yet again in that i agree with michael. >> i was -- >> the judge -- the judge is clearly overreaching here. you know, sadly there is no law against being an idiotic
or osama bin laden or sean hannity. these are horrible names! >> sean hannity, that is not fair. >> all kidding aside, one quick thing, i know stephanie wants to jump in. in tennessee, turned statute of child abuse, it includes not just physical abuse, but imminent mental abuse. if you're going to name your child messiah or a worse name, a more challenging name, the child live withes it, not the parent. they think it's cute and fun. your kid has to go every day with that and get...
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bin laden's anti-american videos after 9/11. the network's executives are well aware of its perception problem but they say that's going to disappear once you see their programming and they have been aggressively hiring high profile american journalists and opening bureaus in cities around the country. joining me to discuss the latest player in cable news here in washington, michael calderone, media reporter for the huffington post and edward fell 17 thaul, managing editor for time.com. welcome to you both. >> thanks. >> before we start, i should mention that al jazeera also accepted our invitation for both its interim ceo and its president of news to join us today, but then it cancelled. so moving on here, edward, let me start with you. there's so much competition now in cable news, including planned or already on the air networks from china, russia, univision with abc, fox just started a sports network. is there room for another news network? >> i think it's a great time to launch. just this week vice, which used to be a canad
bin laden's anti-american videos after 9/11. the network's executives are well aware of its perception problem but they say that's going to disappear once you see their programming and they have been aggressively hiring high profile american journalists and opening bureaus in cities around the country. joining me to discuss the latest player in cable news here in washington, michael calderone, media reporter for the huffington post and edward fell 17 thaul, managing editor for time.com. welcome...
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>> remember how osama bin laden was operating, it could take three weeks. he's issuing general guidance, more higher level guidance and leaving the tactics up to genuine it's. >> you tried to get him when you were head of national intelligence. i assume the u.s. is still trying to get him. why is it so hard to get ayman al zawahiri? >> who is that guy in our country, richard jewell, he disappeared in our country. >> the outgoing cia, the deputy director, he gave an interviews to the wall street journal in which he said syria is probably the most important issue in the world today because of where it is currently heading. he's deeply concerned about chemical weapon stockpiles, other weapons in syria getting into the hands of al qaeda and others. is this the biggest national security threat the u.s. faces right now? >> i would say as far as the geopolitical situation, i would agree with mike morel. it's not just the chemical weapon. if you look at the place that syria occupies, the funnel for iranian aid going to hezbollah, so it's a life line for hezbollah,
>> remember how osama bin laden was operating, it could take three weeks. he's issuing general guidance, more higher level guidance and leaving the tactics up to genuine it's. >> you tried to get him when you were head of national intelligence. i assume the u.s. is still trying to get him. why is it so hard to get ayman al zawahiri? >> who is that guy in our country, richard jewell, he disappeared in our country. >> the outgoing cia, the deputy director, he gave an...
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yes, we did take out osama bin laden. and as soon as the next chief pops up we take him out in the central node of al qaeda. it's still dangerous. and it can transform itself. you've got people who spend their lives plotting how to hurt americans. so until every one of those people is eliminated or they change their motivations, we've got a continuing issue. i think what the president was trying to say was the central nervous system of the old al qaeda has been broken and broken down and decapitated with getting rid of osama bin laden. and that's a good thing, but it's not the end of it. >> thanks to each of you. >>> as many of you know, we have devoted much of our program over the past year to the benghazi attacks and their afteras a matter of fact. please join us on tuesday night at 10:00 eastern, the truth about benghazi. we're going to go back to that fateful night. and we're going to be speaking to the families of those who lost their lives. that is tuesday night at 10:00 and 7:00. 7:00 pacific, 10:00 eastern. >>> st
yes, we did take out osama bin laden. and as soon as the next chief pops up we take him out in the central node of al qaeda. it's still dangerous. and it can transform itself. you've got people who spend their lives plotting how to hurt americans. so until every one of those people is eliminated or they change their motivations, we've got a continuing issue. i think what the president was trying to say was the central nervous system of the old al qaeda has been broken and broken down and...
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. >> al qaeda is on its heels and osama bin laden is dead. >> reporter: republicans say telling the truth about benghazi might have undermined a case for re-election. >> the american people are owed an apology for the misinformation that went on for weeks. >> reporter: the white house chafes at any suggestion of a coverup. >> the fact that this keeps on getting churned out, frankly has a lot to do with political motivations. >> reporter: there is no disputing this, the explanations have, at times, been inconsistent, conflicting and n inaccurate. >> what we do know is that the natural protests that was the outrage over the video was used as an excuse by extremists. >> i heard hillary clinton say it was an act of terrorism. what do you say? >> we're still doing an investigation. there's no doubt that the kind of weapons that were used, the ongoing assault that it wasn't just a mob action. >> reporter: exhibit a in this debate is these benghazi talking points used by ambassador rice when she made the sunday show rounds. >> the whole issue of talking points, frankly throughout this process, h
. >> al qaeda is on its heels and osama bin laden is dead. >> reporter: republicans say telling the truth about benghazi might have undermined a case for re-election. >> the american people are owed an apology for the misinformation that went on for weeks. >> reporter: the white house chafes at any suggestion of a coverup. >> the fact that this keeps on getting churned out, frankly has a lot to do with political motivations. >> reporter: there is no disputing...
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. >> al qaeda is on the path to defeat and osama bin laden is dead. >> reporter: and months into the second term. >> al qaeda is a shell of its former self. >> reporter: in light of benghazi and the terror alert, graham says far from it. >> after benghazi, the al qaeda types are on steroids thinking we are weaking and they are stronger. >> is it fair to say al qaeda is on the path of defeat? >> most people who cover these issues understand that al qaeda core is the afghanistan/pack stain base. there's no question the al qaeda core has been greatly diminished. we have made clear over the past several years aqap, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula is a concern. >> reporter: al qaeda core is evolving. the man leading aqap is believed to be al qaeda's number two in command. >> i think what we have seen particularly since the death of osama bin laden is a metamorphosis of sorts within al qaeda. >> reporter: the question is whether the new al qaeda has the capacity to pull off a 9/11 style attack. the closing of embassies, some that are like bunkers a reminder the terror network can still m
. >> al qaeda is on the path to defeat and osama bin laden is dead. >> reporter: and months into the second term. >> al qaeda is a shell of its former self. >> reporter: in light of benghazi and the terror alert, graham says far from it. >> after benghazi, the al qaeda types are on steroids thinking we are weaking and they are stronger. >> is it fair to say al qaeda is on the path of defeat? >> most people who cover these issues understand that al qaeda...
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bin laden is dead. >> let's bring in cnn security analyst peter bergen. peter, you heard the president say last fall that al qaeda was on the path to defeat but now you see this. is this a result of a reorganization of al qaeda? does it appear as though it is still a threat or even more so of a threat than it once was even with the removal of bin laden and several of the lieutenants? >> well, fredericka, al qaeda hasn't attacked the united states since 9/11. since july 7th, 2005.the west - and under the obama administration, almost the entire top leadership is either killed in drone strikes or in the case of bin laden killed in a navy s.e.a.l. raid and the documents recovered from the bin laden compound paint an organization that well under the pressures they were under and thinking of moving from western pakistan where all the drones are concentrated in to a remote area of afghanistan, a web of the al qaeda brand has been tarnished by the actions of al qaeda in iraq, et cetera, et cetera. so that portrait doesn't necessarily conflict with the fact that c
bin laden is dead. >> let's bring in cnn security analyst peter bergen. peter, you heard the president say last fall that al qaeda was on the path to defeat but now you see this. is this a result of a reorganization of al qaeda? does it appear as though it is still a threat or even more so of a threat than it once was even with the removal of bin laden and several of the lieutenants? >> well, fredericka, al qaeda hasn't attacked the united states since 9/11. since july 7th, 2005.the...
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other than the occasional video from osama bin laden and the like, often those who commit horrific acts are kept from the lime light and disappear forever, like the aurora shooter or the boston marathon bomber. but today we all got a long, hard look at evil. we heard man, ariel castro, who pleaded guilty to unspeakable crimes to three young girls and their children. he tried to apologize, federal budget after -- even after he l distinct impression he didn't do anything that wrong. >> i have an addiction, just like an alcoholic has an addiction. alcoholics cannot control their addiction. that's why i couldn't control my addiction, your honor. these accusations that i would come home and beat her, beat them, those are totally wrong, your honor. because, like i said before, i am not a violent person. i'm not a violent person. i simply kept them there without allowing them to leave. >> it reminded some of us of that famous phrase, the benality of evil. and while what castro said today was infuriating and what he it was incomprehensible, you might not think anything about him if you met him
other than the occasional video from osama bin laden and the like, often those who commit horrific acts are kept from the lime light and disappear forever, like the aurora shooter or the boston marathon bomber. but today we all got a long, hard look at evil. we heard man, ariel castro, who pleaded guilty to unspeakable crimes to three young girls and their children. he tried to apologize, federal budget after -- even after he l distinct impression he didn't do anything that wrong. >> i...
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campaign. >> and al qaeda is on the path to defeat and osama bin laden is dead. >> reporter: and months into his second term. >> for al qaeda is a shell of its former self. >> reporter: in light of the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi and the new terror alert, republican senator lindsey graham says far from it. >> after benghazi, these al qaeda types are really on steroids, thinking we're weaker and they're stronger. >> is it fair anymore to say that al qaeda is on the path to defeat? >> i think most people who cover these issues understand it, there is no question over the past several years al qaeda core has been greatly diminished and we have made clear over the past several years that aqap, al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, is of particular concern. >> reporter: but al qaeda core appears to be evolving. the man leading is now believed to be al qaeda's number two in command. the ultimate question terror analysts say is whether this new al qaeda still has the capacity to pull off another 9/11 style attack. the closing of the embassies, some of which are already like bunkers,
campaign. >> and al qaeda is on the path to defeat and osama bin laden is dead. >> reporter: and months into his second term. >> for al qaeda is a shell of its former self. >> reporter: in light of the attack on the u.s. consulate in benghazi and the new terror alert, republican senator lindsey graham says far from it. >> after benghazi, these al qaeda types are really on steroids, thinking we're weaker and they're stronger. >> is it fair anymore to say that...
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. >> al qaeda is a different beast to what it was with osama bin laden. you got this global entity of cells, which may or may not be linked together, may be working entirely independently. very, very hard to take on an enemy like that. >> this is the problem with the war on terror, get osama bid laden and possible for new groups and cells to spring up. the situation we got we were able to have a return to normal where terrorism became a low-level threat, one of the things the president said in his interview with jay leno tonight, americans are much more likely to die in a car accident than terror attack. that's healthy the way they think of foreign policy and if there is a big event that happens in the middle east, i think it could change that in a negative way and force us, draw us back in. >> it has to be noted for the talk about the nsa and invasion of people's privacy and so on and so on they are successful in a huge atrocity. >> think not why we've been successful in preventing come mess tick terrier -- >> do we know that? >> i wouldn't want to yield
. >> al qaeda is a different beast to what it was with osama bin laden. you got this global entity of cells, which may or may not be linked together, may be working entirely independently. very, very hard to take on an enemy like that. >> this is the problem with the war on terror, get osama bid laden and possible for new groups and cells to spring up. the situation we got we were able to have a return to normal where terrorism became a low-level threat, one of the things the...
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i am against osama bin laden, i am against al zawahiri, i am against nidal hasan, i am against boston bomber. >> do you think islam is a religion that promotes terrorism in. >> no comment. >> he said he wishes that the boston bombers and nidal hasan had seen his film because he said his film would have convinced them not to carry out their terrorist acts. he also said he's working on a book. and now we're just learning the air force has failed a safety inspection. barbara starr joins us with more. how badly did they fail and how dangerous is this? >> reporter: it is a problem, no mistake about it, jake, for the u.s. air force. this is an air force wing in montana, about 150 minuteman interintercontinental ballistic missile. they will not tell us exactly what "tactical errors" were made that led to the fail mark on the inspection. they say the nuclear weapons were always safe. but, jake, this is the second of three wings, there's only three nuclear wings in the u.s. air force, two of them so far this year, this is number two, have failed security and safety inspections, another one ear
i am against osama bin laden, i am against al zawahiri, i am against nidal hasan, i am against boston bomber. >> do you think islam is a religion that promotes terrorism in. >> no comment. >> he said he wishes that the boston bombers and nidal hasan had seen his film because he said his film would have convinced them not to carry out their terrorist acts. he also said he's working on a book. and now we're just learning the air force has failed a safety inspection. barbara...
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it also marked the first time many americans ever heard the name osama bin laden. of course, september 11th is a critical date not only for the 2001 attacks on america but also the deadly attack on the u.s. mission in benghazi, libya, one year ago. the state department says it's closing 21 u.s. embassies and consulates on sunday out of an abundance of caution. one official telling us the shutdown could be extended beyond sunday. here is our senior international correspondent arwa damon. she's outside the american embassy in cairo. >> reporter: behind this wall is one of the roads that leads to the u.s. embassy in cairo. normally the embassy would have been open on a sunday. it is a working day here. it will, however, be closed because of those security concerns. in the past there have been demonstrations here. there have been mobs, angry mobs, who have gathered trying to attack the embassy. september 11th of last year, for example, an incensed crowd, angered over the film that insulted prophet mohammed, tried to attack the embassy and it was the same day we saw tha
it also marked the first time many americans ever heard the name osama bin laden. of course, september 11th is a critical date not only for the 2001 attacks on america but also the deadly attack on the u.s. mission in benghazi, libya, one year ago. the state department says it's closing 21 u.s. embassies and consulates on sunday out of an abundance of caution. one official telling us the shutdown could be extended beyond sunday. here is our senior international correspondent arwa damon. she's...
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bin laden, a physical courier driving the car that they were able to follow, so we've heard about this before. but this is an electronic trail, that's how they were able to find this. how do they do it? >> so, here's what happened, after a seven-hour internet conference between all of these leaders, the details of that conference, the minutes of it, were given to this courier and he then took it and tried to send it around to a greater distribution list inside the al qaeda community. when he did that, he made some mistakes in his operational security and they were able to catch the mistakes and track him and with the help of the yemeni authorities pick him up and capture him and when they got him they found a video of the entire seven-hour conference call along with a host of all other sorts of goodies about what al qaeda was up to. that is exactly how we found out about the worldwide terror threat that prompted the embassy closings. the courier himself is still in custody somewhere in yemen being held by yemeni authorities and they are still going through the troves of information cau
bin laden, a physical courier driving the car that they were able to follow, so we've heard about this before. but this is an electronic trail, that's how they were able to find this. how do they do it? >> so, here's what happened, after a seven-hour internet conference between all of these leaders, the details of that conference, the minutes of it, were given to this courier and he then took it and tried to send it around to a greater distribution list inside the al qaeda community. when...
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he was osama bin laden's personal secretary in afghanistan. after 9/11, he fled with bin laden to the mountains of tora bora, surviving days of bombings. he wound up in iran and then deported and jailed in yemen. in 2006, he escaped from prison in a notorious jailbreak, emerging in 2008 to plot a deadly attack on the u.s. embassy in yemen. in 2009, he rose to the top of aqap. that year, the same organization tried to blow up a u.s. airliner on christmas day, in the so-called underwear bomber plot. this latest threat has revealed a stunning leak forward in al qaeda's communications. the u.s. intelligence community, cnn has learned, was able to intercept an encrypted messaging system that allowed several operatives to communicate at one time. in still another turn in wuhayshi's rare but growing communications, the associated press reports in mali, it discovered a letter from w wuhayshi to fellow terrorists to provide food, water, and garbage collection to the people in the area he controlled, perhaps his vision of an islamic state. erin? >> barb
he was osama bin laden's personal secretary in afghanistan. after 9/11, he fled with bin laden to the mountains of tora bora, surviving days of bombings. he wound up in iran and then deported and jailed in yemen. in 2006, he escaped from prison in a notorious jailbreak, emerging in 2008 to plot a deadly attack on the u.s. embassy in yemen. in 2009, he rose to the top of aqap. that year, the same organization tried to blow up a u.s. airliner on christmas day, in the so-called underwear bomber...
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. >>> a new report in "the washington post" offering more detail about the raid that killed osama bin laden, it says forensic intelligence agents working in afghanistan confirmed his identity eight hours after he was killed using dna from his corpse. "the post" information is based on data from leaker edward snowden. >>> friday marks san diego mayor bob filner's final day in office at 5:00, city council president todd gloria will take over as interim mayor and a special election is set for november 19th. gloria allred is celebrating his last day, she represents several women harassed by filner. >>> new york is a great place but it took a couple of kittens to shut down the subway, service came to a halt thursday for 90 minutes as they looked for the fugitive fee lines, the rail could be deadly to an unsuspecting cat. at first there was no luck finding the kittens but they were found hours later and taken to a local animal shelter. it would really anger commuters, but come on, look at that face. >> got to save the kittens. good stuff. >> and they did. that's some good news. we'll take a
. >>> a new report in "the washington post" offering more detail about the raid that killed osama bin laden, it says forensic intelligence agents working in afghanistan confirmed his identity eight hours after he was killed using dna from his corpse. "the post" information is based on data from leaker edward snowden. >>> friday marks san diego mayor bob filner's final day in office at 5:00, city council president todd gloria will take over as interim mayor...
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al qaeda's leader in yemen, once osama bin laden's personal secretary, is now reportedly the second command in the organization worldwide. is this an opportunity, potentially, then, for him to make his mark? >> it may well be. this is his coming out party as the de facto number two of al qaeda. the plot was in the works at the same time as this announcement was going to come out that he was playing this bigger role in the al qaeda global terrorist network. >> reporter: president obama stuck to his planned weekend schedule, golfing and going to camp david for his birthday. a white house official says the president will continue to be updated about the threat through the weekend. the white house says it will not comment on intelligence in this case, particularly as it relates to a "new york times" report that says some of this intelligence came from intercepted electronic communications between senior al qaeda operatives. our terrorism expert, paul cruickshank says regardless of what happens because of this threat, the terrorists have caused enough concern to prompt closures and travel alerts
al qaeda's leader in yemen, once osama bin laden's personal secretary, is now reportedly the second command in the organization worldwide. is this an opportunity, potentially, then, for him to make his mark? >> it may well be. this is his coming out party as the de facto number two of al qaeda. the plot was in the works at the same time as this announcement was going to come out that he was playing this bigger role in the al qaeda global terrorist network. >> reporter: president...
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it shifts more when osama bin laden took over in 9/11. they can together and shared the same ideology area are we seeing a shift, [indiscernible] a little bit about technology, are we going to see more about cyber wars that will try to develop? >> we have seen a shift in how the fed operates in different countries. the mistake is to say that is not part of their global design. let me give you a case in point in yemen. a political platform was instituted. basically, this was the attempt to try to rebrand themselves and say, we can provide governance in basic service to you and basically adopting parts of the has law and green and set -- ourselves in the community. the associated press came out recently talking about all this and the prime focus was how to build a skate in yemen. as he is doing that and he is evolving politically, trying to figure out a new way forward for his organization. they are concerned -- concurrent with that. one of the key affiliates -- they are basically able to walk and chew gum at the same time. if you look coun
it shifts more when osama bin laden took over in 9/11. they can together and shared the same ideology area are we seeing a shift, [indiscernible] a little bit about technology, are we going to see more about cyber wars that will try to develop? >> we have seen a shift in how the fed operates in different countries. the mistake is to say that is not part of their global design. let me give you a case in point in yemen. a political platform was instituted. basically, this was the attempt to...
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osama bin laden famously said that people follow the strong horse, not the week course. we are a strong country. i do worry that we look like a relatively weak horse going in the wrong direction. that makes things very dangerous. [applause] all of us have different things we would like done. for the most part under bush and cheney, everyone was operating in the same direction. under president obama, it is schizophrenic. i thought it was disgraceful and he had the investigations of the aa interrogators -- for number of years, every cia interrogator had to buy personal liability insurance to protect themselves against investigations. that is the mindset you are putting people in. with all the hypocrisy we have, during these attacks in the middle east, if some cia guy got a hold of some islamist and held his hide underwater to find out where the attack was coming from, they would say it was great three years -- the next day. three years from now, he would be indicted for war crimes. we have to keep in mind we are always at war with islamic terrorism. what we do overseas, th
osama bin laden famously said that people follow the strong horse, not the week course. we are a strong country. i do worry that we look like a relatively weak horse going in the wrong direction. that makes things very dangerous. [applause] all of us have different things we would like done. for the most part under bush and cheney, everyone was operating in the same direction. under president obama, it is schizophrenic. i thought it was disgraceful and he had the investigations of the aa...
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it shifts more when osama bin laden took over in 9/11. they can together and shared the same ideology area are we seeing , [indiscernible] a little bit about technology, are we going to see more about cyber wars that will try to develop? >> we have seen a shift in how the fed operates in different countries. the mistake is to say that is not part of their global design. let me give you a case in point in yemen. a political platform was instituted. basically, this was the attempt to try to rebrand themselves and say, we can provide governance in basic service to you and basically adopting parts of the has law and green and set -- ourselves in the community. the associated press came out recently talking about all this and the prime focus was how to build a skate in yemen. as he is doing that and he is evolving politically, trying to figure out a new way forward for his organization. they are concerned -- concurrent with that. -- of the key affiliates they are basically able to walk and chew gum at the same time. if you look country by coun
it shifts more when osama bin laden took over in 9/11. they can together and shared the same ideology area are we seeing , [indiscernible] a little bit about technology, are we going to see more about cyber wars that will try to develop? >> we have seen a shift in how the fed operates in different countries. the mistake is to say that is not part of their global design. let me give you a case in point in yemen. a political platform was instituted. basically, this was the attempt to try to...
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that osama bin laden was in a different neighboring country. they did take up the facility where they believe he was to be holed up. i am not aware of that particular table. on our twitter page -- a great point jim is making. basically, you are right. in many ways it is. revealed we were listening in on the communications between the leader of the team. what that unfortunately men is most likely we have their cell communications that enabled us to do that. means weation of that have bird that source. that source. you could imagine how tough it is to get the top leaders and a gold mine. that close to getting that close to the top leadership would be commended and is a gold mine. unfortunately would bring that source. we will no longer be able to use them in future operations. they will move to different sources. damaging revelation that of communication is true these individuals. the second point is it is disconcerting because if you look at the sensitive side the exploitation when we took down osama bin laden, what you will , you see a correspo
that osama bin laden was in a different neighboring country. they did take up the facility where they believe he was to be holed up. i am not aware of that particular table. on our twitter page -- a great point jim is making. basically, you are right. in many ways it is. revealed we were listening in on the communications between the leader of the team. what that unfortunately men is most likely we have their cell communications that enabled us to do that. means weation of that have bird that...
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during the time i was in office, that authority generally worked against core al qaeda, osama bin laden being the most prominent example. other members of core al qaeda. al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, and al qaeda- affiliated elements. >> there were three associated forces when you're in office. >> those were the three that i had the occasion to evaluate most often. there were other instances where i would conduct a legal evaluation where we did not go forward with a specific operation, but those are the three most prominent examples that we regularly briefed to congress. you referred to my oxford speech. i think we are at an inflection point, as one journalist put it, where we should no longer consider ourselves in a traditional armed conflict against al qaeda and affiliated groups. i think benghazi is a prominent example of what i am talking about. you cannot label the benghazi attack as something conducted by al qaeda and associated forces. it was more of a mixed bag. in this period, i think we need to evaluate in congress what new authorities we might need -- and we're not just
during the time i was in office, that authority generally worked against core al qaeda, osama bin laden being the most prominent example. other members of core al qaeda. al qaeda in the arabian peninsula, and al qaeda- affiliated elements. >> there were three associated forces when you're in office. >> those were the three that i had the occasion to evaluate most often. there were other instances where i would conduct a legal evaluation where we did not go forward with a specific...
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i do know that osama bin laden was in a different neighboring country. after evaluation of options, president clinton did elect to send a cruise missile into sudan which did take care of the facility where it was believed to be hold up. he was not aware there. i'm not aware of that particular cable from the yemeni government. host: comment on our twitter page -- guest: a great point jim is making. basically, you are right. in many ways it is. t has now been revealed we were listening in on the communications between the eader of the team. what that unfortunately showed is it's revealed that most likely we had their cell phone or email communications that enabled us to do that. the revelation of that, not only the method but the specific individuals talking means we have now burned that source. you could imagine how tough it is to get the direct communication of the top leaders of your adversary and in our world of the c.i.a., that would be the gold mine. anyone that close to getting that close to the top leadership would be commended and is a gold mine.
i do know that osama bin laden was in a different neighboring country. after evaluation of options, president clinton did elect to send a cruise missile into sudan which did take care of the facility where it was believed to be hold up. he was not aware there. i'm not aware of that particular cable from the yemeni government. host: comment on our twitter page -- guest: a great point jim is making. basically, you are right. in many ways it is. t has now been revealed we were listening in on the...
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but i think is pretty clear what he was trying to say, which is anytime you can take osama bin laden off the board and kind of decimates the rest of their leadership, and by the way this administration has been extremely aggressive in the use of drone strikes in various places that we don't have boots on the ground. so i think we just have to continue to go after these people with the understanding it does not completely eliminate the threat. host: the disagreement over analyzing the threat and what it means -- this from the --nancial times" on friday terror alert returns al qaeda to center stage. u.s. claims of decimated enemy appear exaggerated. in that piece from friday's financial times. we are taking your calls and comments on this issue and the threat of al qaeda right now. our democratl on line from detroit, michigan. good morning, you were on with christopher hill. caller: good morning. withieve the whole thing the embassies and everything was a manufactured crisis because of the snowden release. once again, it is just like the terror alert. one native yellow, one day it is g
but i think is pretty clear what he was trying to say, which is anytime you can take osama bin laden off the board and kind of decimates the rest of their leadership, and by the way this administration has been extremely aggressive in the use of drone strikes in various places that we don't have boots on the ground. so i think we just have to continue to go after these people with the understanding it does not completely eliminate the threat. host: the disagreement over analyzing the threat and...
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on the peopleus who actually attacked us on 9/11, and now al qaeda is on the run, and osama bin laden is dead. >> i think it is indisputable that the elimination of osama bin laden was a major a couple smith in the effort against al qaeda. clearesident has been that the threat from all kind of qaeda very much still looms. , our action that we take extra ordinarily capable women and men in uniform, the actions that they take in order to demonstratesfight, how serious we take the threat. no one should be under any illusion that the threat does not still exist. we have numerous communications about what we need to do continually as a nation to elvesct our cells -- ours i the terrorists who mean us harm. the fact that we continue to do those things means that the threat is still will -- real, so we need to be vigilant. i do not think it is a fair reading of the efforts we make , to saythose terrorists it is not real. he has not made that distinctive. he has said that they are decimated. leadership, the leadership that attacked the united states on september 11, 2001, has been decimated. t
on the peopleus who actually attacked us on 9/11, and now al qaeda is on the run, and osama bin laden is dead. >> i think it is indisputable that the elimination of osama bin laden was a major a couple smith in the effort against al qaeda. clearesident has been that the threat from all kind of qaeda very much still looms. , our action that we take extra ordinarily capable women and men in uniform, the actions that they take in order to demonstratesfight, how serious we take the threat. no...
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do you believe that osama bin laden hid for five years in pakistan without anyone in the pakistani military intelligence knowing about it? >> no, i don't believe it. >> okay, then i'm going to ask you for a 10-word answer. ( laughter ). >> i don't think, now this is my opinion, i'm not backing this up with hard facts. i don't think general kiani knew that, i don't think there was a plan on where he was. but this was 700 meters from the gates of west point. now who know what is 700 meeters from the gates of our west point. but the reality is it was a very distinct come pound, it was like that funny house at the end of the street where people didn't act the same as everybody necessary the neighborhood, in an area why people are not naturally trusting. so somebody facilitated something. now, i sort of buy into the idea that the ambassador and i were talking, it probably was not official, but it could be someone who's got relationship with an official who is providing the help and there is a failure to ask questions that needed to be asked. there's a failure to due diligence. >> short answer, i
do you believe that osama bin laden hid for five years in pakistan without anyone in the pakistani military intelligence knowing about it? >> no, i don't believe it. >> okay, then i'm going to ask you for a 10-word answer. ( laughter ). >> i don't think, now this is my opinion, i'm not backing this up with hard facts. i don't think general kiani knew that, i don't think there was a plan on where he was. but this was 700 meters from the gates of west point. now who know what is...
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of you, osama bin laden is no more. because of you, al qaeda's top ranks have been hammered. core of al qaeda, in afghanistan and pakistan, is on its way to defeat. that happened because of you. because of you, more afghans are reclaiming their immunities, markets, schools, their towns, and they have a chance to forge their own future. areuse of you, more afghans trained and stepping up in defending their own country. and preserving the gains we -- you fought and fled for, we will ensure afghan is never again a source of attack against our country. applause]d that happened because of you. the war in afghanistan will and for you, that means fewer deployments, training time, getting back to what marines do better than anyone else on earth. it means more time here on the homefront with your families, your wives, your husband, your kids. , the end of the war in afghanistan does not mean the end of threats to our nation. as i have said before, he's an -- even as we decimated the al qaeda leadership that attacked us on 9/11, al qaeda affiliates and like-minded extremists still thre
of you, osama bin laden is no more. because of you, al qaeda's top ranks have been hammered. core of al qaeda, in afghanistan and pakistan, is on its way to defeat. that happened because of you. because of you, more afghans are reclaiming their immunities, markets, schools, their towns, and they have a chance to forge their own future. areuse of you, more afghans trained and stepping up in defending their own country. and preserving the gains we -- you fought and fled for, we will ensure afghan...
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during the time i was in office, that authority generally worked against al qaeda, osama bin laden being the most prominent example. other members of core al qaeda. and al qaeda-affiliated elements. >> there were three associated forces when you're in office. >> those were the three that i had the occasion to evaluate most often. here were other instances when i would conduct a legal evaluation where we did not go forward with a specific operation, but those are the three most prominent examples that we regularly briefed to congress. you referred to my oxford speech. i think we are at an inflection point as one journalist put it where we should no longer consider ourselves in a traditional armed conflict against al qaeda and affiliated groups. i think benghazi is a prominent example of what i am talking about. you cannot label the benghazi attacked as something conducted by al qaeda and associated forces. it was more of a mixed bag. in this period where we're head in addition new direction, we need to evaluate in congress what new authorities our counterterrorism professionals might need
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is exactly what osama bin laden was trying to bring about. he did not he believed -- believe he could destroy buildings in order to do real damage. what he thought is we could turn on each other. passed itng the house shouldn't. the houses approving tougher sanctions. the toughest sanctions yet on iran. brush aside calls for restraint by critics that said the election should first be given a chance to negotiate. how did you vote? what you think about iran these days? guest: voted in favor of it and introduce five amendments and did not think it is enough. i am not one of the people who bring we should water these things down. " we're doing is not working. to have awant iran nuclear weapon. it is not an experiment and one to ever run. i do not think every country deserves nuclear-weapons. i did not believe that at all. question, are we willing to take the risk? there is a great debate whether we should allow the soviet union to have nuclear weapons? the same debate occurred with china. saying publicly they want to destroy america, i do not kno
is exactly what osama bin laden was trying to bring about. he did not he believed -- believe he could destroy buildings in order to do real damage. what he thought is we could turn on each other. passed itng the house shouldn't. the houses approving tougher sanctions. the toughest sanctions yet on iran. brush aside calls for restraint by critics that said the election should first be given a chance to negotiate. how did you vote? what you think about iran these days? guest: voted in favor of it...